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    Curious to hear people's takes on Bronny James. It seems like on talent alone (or recruiting ranking) that he'd be a take for us even if he wasn't Lebron's kid. I also think that being Lebron's kid and the circus it attracts is a plus for USC basketball. Duke, Kentucky, UCLA, Arizona etc. may not need (or want) that circus, but we need to take more risks to get butts in the seats/eyes on the screen.

    Also, no clue where he's leaning, but today's news about dad can't hurt.

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    If he was an ordinary recruit, he’s a borderline take. Tweener with some upside. Doesn’t really have PG skills and lacks elite shooting for a SG.

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    • #3
      The staff seems to be prioritizing Silas Demary at the 2 spot. That kid is underrated and better than Bronny. Pretty twitchy, active on D and has great shooting indicators. He's coming in for a visit in early September, with NC State as the primary competition, so they have a pretty real shot there.

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      • #4
        I think the posters on the site made some good points about the holistic benefits of recruiting Bronny. Would be great for publicity, could be great for NIL, and would be awesome to have LeBron as a supporter of the program.
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        • #5
          Yes, I guess I wonder is Bronny some sort of "Super Little Romeo" where if we take him, he's a package with one (or more) five stars AND he increases the visibility of the program such that his impact reverberates for a few years. The downside is obviously the potential for him to become a distraction if he struggles or isn't good enough to get minutes. Luckily Andy and Co. get paid the big bucks to figure this out.

          As a total aside, I was on a rec league team with Little Romeo for a year right after college. He definitely wasn't a high D1 player (and neither am I), but he could still really play.

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          • #6
            Playing devil's advocate, it could be very bad. Depending on LeBron. If LeBron is unhappy, he has media leverage to make USC look very bad or push for certain agendas.
            Last edited by TroyD; 08-19-2022, 07:52 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Trojan2021 View Post
              I think the posters on the site made some good points about the holistic benefits of recruiting Bronny. Would be great for publicity, could be great for NIL, and would be awesome to have LeBron as a supporter of the program.
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              What happens if Bronny isn’t good enough to get more than 10mpg for his one season at SC. How’s that going to go with Lebron?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CharlieParker View Post
                Yes, I guess I wonder is Bronny some sort of "Super Little Romeo" where if we take him, he's a package with one (or more) five stars AND he increases the visibility of the program such that his impact reverberates for a few years. The downside is obviously the potential for him to become a distraction if he struggles or isn't good enough to get minutes. Luckily Andy and Co. get paid the big bucks to figure this out.

                As a total aside, I was on a rec league team with Little Romeo for a year right after college. He definitely wasn't a high D1 player (and neither am I), but he could still really play.
                The difference is that when you don’t play Lil Romeo, Master P didn’t go on Twitter and attack the coach.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Chase in Arizona View Post

                  What happens if Bronny isn’t good enough to get more than 10mpg for his one season at SC. How’s that going to go with Lebron?
                  10mpg as a freshman may even be a stretch, since Andy isn't too bias towards frosh unless his name is "Evan Mobley". I'm sure Andy is more reserved about this recruitment than he could otherwise be; he's never been one for the limelight.

                  Still, optimism in a variety of outcomes here. Wouldn't like to see him as a bruin unless it means we get 2/3 free wins in 202.

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                  • #10
                    Wherever Bronny goes he's playing. Not because he's an all-world talent, but because simply bringing him in is a tacit agreement to feature him. Signing Bronny is a long-term play to garner attention & rebrand as the "it" school. Whatever short-term negative consequences there are from playing him over veteran players (like Reese & Tre in 'SC's case) are implicitly accepted as part of the deal. To think that he could sign Bronny & then treat him like any other freshman would be insanely naive on any college coach's part &, frankly, suicidal.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hoss View Post
                      Wherever Bronny goes he's playing. Not because he's an all-world talent, but because simply bringing him in is a tacit agreement to feature him. Signing Bronny is a long-term play to garner attention & rebrand as the "it" school. Whatever short-term negative consequences there are from playing him over veteran players (like Reese & Tre in 'SC's case) are implicitly accepted as part of the deal. To think that he could sign Bronny & then treat him like any other freshman would be insanely naive on any college coach's part &, frankly, suicidal.
                      This is why I don’t think it makes sense to do it. If SC get Collier, then you’ve got a backcourt of Collier, Reese and Tre. That’s insanely good. Playing Bronny over any of those three is a really bad idea, and would hurt the program immensely over the short term.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Chase in Arizona View Post

                        This is why I don’t think it makes sense to do it. If SC get Collier, then you’ve got a backcourt of Collier, Reese and Tre. That’s insanely good. Playing Bronny over any of those three is a really bad idea, and would hurt the program immensely over the short term.
                        Good point. I would take him if he wants us just because for the popularity boost of LeBron. But this makes me not feel bad if we miss out on him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Trojan2019 View Post

                          Good point. I would take him if he wants us just because for the popularity boost of LeBron. But this makes me not feel bad if we miss out on him.
                          An important part of this is that the media is already starting to go wild over Bronny. For example, a guy named Derek Murray, whose affiliated with a media company called Babcock Hoops was just quoted as saying this about Bronny: "I do believe Bronny is an NBA player due to his size, shot creation, and facilitation skills. I am possibly looking at a mid-first round to early second round projection if I had to make one today."

                          There is tremendous pressure on people who do basketball media to curry favor with Lebron. I think Bronny is a legit top 60-80 prospect, and if he any other guy I'd say he makes sense as a take over a four-year college career. But Bronny is a one-and-done, and media will by and large treat him that way ... because of Lebron, and because Bronny is a good kid, and because Bronny is a legit high major level player.

                          If Bronny is utilized as a one-and-done, it's going to blowback on whatever program takes him.

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                          • #14
                            I get why most 'SC fans want him, but it feels very gimmicky to me, especially since, as you pointed out Chase, we could potentially have our best backcourt in years in 2023-24. Andy already did the unorthodox move to boost recruiting when he hired Eric Mobley & it's worked out beautifully. We brought in top 10 classes in '19 & '22 as well as a top 5 player in '20 & could potentially be bringing in another top 5 player this year as part of yet another top 10 class. Our profile has been raised.

                            I really want to see that Collier/Reese/Tre backcourt next year with Vince protecting the rim & catching lobs. Shoehorning Bronny into that lineup for a Q score boost just seems unnecessary to me, but I know I'm in the minority.

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